Sorry for the delay and thanks for your suggestions on water cooling. Unfortunately as I mentioned I have a Thermaltake Level 10 case (
www.ttlevel10.com). Although it is the most expensive case on the market (only real stupid people would buy it) it is NOT water cooling friendly at all. But since I am retired from HP service I am sure the Elite will fit with a few minor mods and is one of the few WC systems that have a chance of fitting. In fact I am so sure I have ordered a Freezone Elite from NCIX. Sorry Vantage did not work out as it would have been a fun product to play with.
Thanks for your suggestions and help. I may be back with Freezone questions.
Drakon